Depends on the mice. As a sibling says, Logitech mice with their drivers work great. The app isn't great and loads a boatload of javascript crap. Can't vouch for bettermouse, never tried it.
Another option which sidesteps the Logi Options crap is Logitech "gaming" mice. These have an integrated memory that actually remembers the configuration set by the driver. So, you only have to put up with the shitty experience once, and then the mouse remembers those settings wherever you use it. Some models can actually remember multiple setting sets.
One of my best mice is a G700s. I haven't used the Logitech G crap in like... ten years? The mouse is still going strong. Its only issue is that it goes through batteries like a hot knife through butter. I like it so much, I actually bought a second one for work. Got it used, since they weren't making them anymore.
That's not macos fault in this case, it's just that Logitech mouses (MX Master at least) doesn't act well at all without driver. Like, for scrolling, it's like the mouse is sending raw smooth scrolling each time you just touch the wheel and without the driver that presumably fake it on the computer side, there is no synchronisation between your actual scroll and the steps you physically feel in the wheel.
Not sure why this is getting downvotes, it's absolutely true. For a very long time you couldn't even set different scroll directions for external mice and the touchpad - even if it's (maybe? I forget) supported now it's always been an area Apple didn't care about and was far behind Windows and Linux.
I assume it’s getting down votes because it’s off-topic. The parent comment was suggesting external mice as a temporary measure to debug the intermittent issue they’re facing.
Whether or not external micr suck on MacOS doesn’t really matter. The objective was to diagnose an issue.
Well, if the suggestion is to use an alternative for a while to diagnose an issue that causes equivalent or even worse issues, then it might not be(come) very debuggable.
Recent switcher to macos. I can't find a way to separately set mouse acceleration and scroll wheel momentum.
I use a trackball for RSI reasons, in order to get across the screen in a single flick means high sensitivity, mouse acceleration is absolutely needed to be able to make small movements. This makes my scroll wheel useless because a single scroll moves the page about 1/10 of a line
I will pile on here and claim Apple is shockingly hostile to accessibility. From the weird way tabs work for focus to the limited options for text clarity, to the lack of control for mice customization, it feels like it has been a low item on their priorities for some time.
That was my experience as well. macOS adopted the iOS UI pattern of list cells using a swipe gesture to show a delete button and other actions. This doesn’t work with mouse and you have to use the right click context menu. This is a constant annoyance when switching between the Mac with an external mouse and the one with a trackpad, as it breaks your muscle memory.
Another comment suggests that third-party tools are still required and that Apple still hasn't added support for this, which makes me wonder if anyone at Apple uses an external mouse or if this is a scenario they literally don't care about.
I loved my Performance MX. I finally had to replace it at work (software wouldn't install after migrating to Windows 11) and the MX Master 3 I got seems much ergonomically worse to me. I also am not a fan of the thumb wheel replacing buttons. Only thing I won't complain about is that the resolution is better. From testing my coworkers' mouses (older Masters) I'm pretty sure they have each been a step downhill from my perspective.
My sister in law gave me her G700S to fix the main button microswitches, and she convinced me that it's the apotheosis of the design - it's what should have replaced the Performance MX. No soft-touch plastic, extra buttons, and the higher resolution sensor. I'll probably have to get one off eBay.
Edit: also all of the Masters have non-user-replaceable batteries.
But the battery only lasts a day or two. The G604 is almost as nice, but battery lasts weeks. But it will likewise need switch replacements before long and is likewise no longer made. None of Logitech's current mice fill the same niche. Why do they discontinue their most popular mice without replacing them? Who can say. I'm pretty confident a direct 700/604 replacement with better switches would sell well.
Yes, but the battery is standard and easily replaceable.
My main gripe with the G700s is the weight, although it's not much heavier than the mx master 3. It also helps to have a great mousepad, or else I get tired of pushing that brick around. There are also aftermarket pads if you use it on the desk and they wear. I haven't tried any, though, my pads are still fine.
I have a 20-year-old hard plastic gaming mouse pad I use at home and it's terrific. At work I have some promotional neoprene covered pad with a terrible Qi charger on one side. The mouse pad similarly works great. The biggest annoyance I have with these things is that I have replaced the switches on all of them, the process of which tends to destroy the skates. None of the replacement skate kits ($10, highway robbery) on eBay or Amazon or whatever include the thick adhesive like the originals, and all the foam tape I can find is too thick, so I've taken to building up layers of double sided tape until they are both even and proud of the recesses in the mouse. This isn't exactly a criticism of Logitech except that they could absolutely sell repair parts for their peripherals and they don't.
G604s are pretty annoying to open up but if you don't want to solder on eBay they have full replacement boards that you can just drop in that have new switches already soldered in there for you.
I can't say I like the 604 from looking at it, but that's a pretty surface level judgment and I'd have to use it to really compare. For my purposes a rechargeable mouse that lasts more than a day is fine because I'm using this at work and I just plug it in when I leave. Having a replaceable rechargeable battery also means if it starts running out of juice before one day I can just pop in a new battery and it'll be good for a couple more years.
It has just stopped holding charge. It can be 100% charged according to Solaar, unplug the cable and it is discharged in < 1 minute. Warranty replacement on the way.
You have to use third party software to configure them properly, then they work fine. I used logitech’s drivers for a while but they’ve become the biggest pile of garbage I have ever seen call itself a driver. I now use BetterMouse instead.
Rclone works but is still not very good, either it doesn't allow a lot of the things you'd expect from a filesystem or it'll just consume tremendous amount of disk space while it slowly transfers the files to the remote host (even on a really fast link).
I've just recently done the same, turned Rust into WASM and it does feel great. Being able to compile mature and well-tested libraries into WASM instead of trying to find a JS equivalent is incredible value.
Even the short snippets are better if one wants to aggregate interesting topics and then read what seems interesting. Not just endlessly scroll each site individually.
In one recent thread about StackOverflow dying, some people theorized that the success of LLMs and thus failing of SO could mostly be attributed to the amount of sycophancy of LLMs.
I tend to agree more and more. People need to be told when their ideas are wrong, if they like it or not.
SO was/is a great site for getting information if (and only if) you properly phrase your question. Oftentimes, if you had an X/Y problem, you would quickly get corrected.
God help you if you had an X/Y Problem Problem. Or if English wasn't your first language.
I suspect the popularity is also boosted by the last two; it will happily tell you the best way to do whatever cursed thing you're trying to do, while still not judging over English skills.
It became technically incorrect. You couldn't dislodge old, upvoted yet now incorrect answers. Fast moving things were answered by a bunch of useless people. etc.
Combine this with the completely dysfunctional social dynamics and it's amazing SO has lasted as long as this.
The technically incorrect issue is downstream of their rigid policies.
Yes, answers which were accepted go Python 2 may require code changes to run on Python 3. Yes, APIs
One of the big issues is that accepted answers grow stale over time, similar to bitrot of the web. But also, SO is very strict about redirecting close copies of previously answered questions to one of the oldest copies of the question. This policy means that the question asker is frustrated when their question is closed and linked to an old answer, which may or may not answer their new question.
But the underlying issue is that SO search is the lifeblood of the app, but the UX is garbage. 100% of searches show a captcha when you are logged out. The keyword matching is tolerable, but not great. Sometimes Google dorking with `site:stackoverflow.com` is better than using SO search.
Ultimately, the UX of LLM chatbots are better than SO. It’s possible that SO could use a chatbot interface to replace their search and improve usability by 10x…
SO is officially dead according to the graph of number of questions posted per month.
Google+SO was my LLM between 2007-2015. Then the site got saturated. All questions were answered. Git, C# Python, SQL, C++, Ruby, PHP, most popular topics got "solved". The site reached singularity. That is when they should have frozen it as the encyclopedia of software.
Then duplicates, one-offs, homeworks started to destroy it. I think earth society collectively got dumber and entitled. Decline of research and intelligence put into online questions is a good measure of this.
> People need to be told when their ideas are wrong, if they like it or not.
This is one of those societal type of problems rather than a technological one. I waffle on the degree of responsibility technology should have (especially privately owned ones) in trying to correct societal wrongs. There is definitely a line somewhere, I just don’t pretend to know where it is. You can definitely go too far one way or another - look at social media for an example
> Plus then you had to fiddle with multiple volume controls instead of one to make it work for your space.
Most AVRs come with an automatic calibration option. Though there are cheap 5.1 options on the market that will get results multiple times better than your flatscreen can produce.
> We should make the default work well
Yep, movies should have properly mastered stereo mixes not just dumb downmixes from surround that will be muddy, muffled and with awful variations in loudness.
I strongly recommend you try adding a center channel to your viewing setup, also a subwoofer if you have the space. I had issues with clarity until I did that.
> Do you spend the effort of specifically selecting stereo tracks (or adjusting how it gets downmixed)?
Umm, isn't that literally a job description of a sound engineer, who on a big production probably makes more in a year than I will do in my whole lifetime?
Is spending a few hours one time to adjust levels on a track, which will run for likely millions of hours across the world such a big ask? I think no, because not every modern movie is illegible, some producers clearly spend a bit of effort to do just that what you wrote. But some just don't care.
> Umm, isn't that literally a job description of a sound engineer, who on a big production probably makes more in a year than I will do in my whole lifetime?
Well, if your setup is stereo then either selecting a stereo track is your job, or your job is to adjust the downmix that is done by your computer because you didn't select the stereo track.
I agree that providing a good stereo mix is the sound engineer's job, but nothing beyond that.
> I agree that providing a good stereo mix is the sound engineer's job, but nothing beyond that.
That's the whole point of this whole thread, no one asks for anything more or out of ordinary. Stereo tracks sometimes have unreasonably bad quality. Nolan even admitted he does this on purpose.
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