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What are those fish? And do they interfere in any way with the fish of us atheists?

We do not have any fish to fry. We want to live free from opression from the ones that beieve they should turn others to the Truth.


The fish I’m talking about include hungry homeless people, poor people that need clothing, and young people dealing with unexpected pregnancies. There are ministries for all of those here, staffed and funded by churchgoers.

Maybe think about it, see if there are some fish you could pick up.


These are not fish specific to religious people.

Helping in these areas is what makes us human. If you need to invoque a deity to explain the action, good for you. The most important part is that help is provided.

Now, unexpected pregnancies is not the strong part of Christianity. When you start to promote teaching about sex and birth control we can talk.


You’re right, those fish are not specific to religious people. But it is true that religious people give more time and money to them. Less religious people tend to give and volunteer less for such causes. I offer no judgement or theories about why, but the data is strong.

About the sex ed., the clinic I volunteer at offers pregnancy related information, including pamphlets that explain pros and cons of things like the ‘day after’ pill. Of course the preferred option is always ensuring good parenting for the newborn child. Clients can take video classes on parenting skills to earn reward points good for diapers, baby food and clothing. It’s really a good program, provided free to the people who need it.


> But it is true that religious people give more time and money to them. Less religious people tend to give and volunteer less for such causes. I offer no judgement or theories about why, but the data is strong. You may want to look at https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38407059/, a large mets-data study. Religious people give more when this is public, and vice-versa. I offer no judgment on that either :)

> About the sex ed., the clinic I volunteer at offers pregnancy related information, including pamphlets that explain pros and cons of things like the ‘day after’ pill. Of course the preferred option is always ensuring good parenting for the newborn child. Clients can take video classes on parenting skills to earn reward points good for diapers, baby food and clothing. It’s really a good program, provided free to the people who need it.

I volounteered for a long time at an organization that provided the same services. We provided information about abortion, pills, medical facts. Everything was on the table, from an abortion to raising your child.

Do your pamphlets address abortion as one of the solutions, making it at par with giving birth? I unfortunately know about "help centers" for pregnant women who were in fact driving them away from some solutions (mostly abortion). They were fortunately made illegal in France because everyone should have a neutral, unbiased access to information and help (including abortion).

For reference, Total Fertility Rate in France is 1.66 vs 1.60 in the US.

Teen pregnancy is four times lower in France - because we do serious sex ed and people have sex knowing what to expect.


Thank you for the study that confirms the assertion that confirms “ Religiosity predicts prosociality”. We are in agreement.

What made you stop volunteering at the clinic?


> Religiosity predicts prosociality

... when in public view. Vanity and all this. Non-religious people are happy to keep their generosity to themselves.

> What made you stop volunteering at the clinic?

I started to travel the world. This was also a time where I experienced first hand how religion impacts people. So far in France we were shielded from that.


The point remains that religious people give more time and money to charitable causes than non-religious people. The motivators may be sinful (vanity, etc), but the good works are what should matter. Better to have hypocrites feeding the hungry than no food at all.

I’m glad to hear you’re getting to see the world. I hope your journeys are enjoyable.


Surely by now you must have noticed that the Right is completely uninterested in solving these things? Cutting social nets and criminalizing abortions will only aggravate these important issues.

Also, I don't see why caring about the homeless prevents also fighting rampant gambling addictions?


The homeless meals and clothes closets have been in place for years. Through administrations and legislatures of all kinds. Nobody ‘solves the problem’, unfortunately.

There are limited resources. That’s why you see churches feeding the hungry and clothing the needy, but probably not fighting gambling so much. People are only able or willing to give so much.


I understand, but I doubt that OP meant "individual churches" when speaking of the "Christian Right". More likely, he meant the evangelical movement currently controlling all branches of government, and the people that give it sufficient mandate to tear through the social nets actually able to releviate these issues.

Yes we do because some religious people have the annoying habit to stick their nose in other people business (and laws) so they should be faced with their hypocrisy when the pure, "natural laws" get in their way. Or the rulings of their book of choice.

I think "Mein Kampf" is the equivalent of celebrity gossip: you are very superficially interested because why not. The depth of the book is similar to the depth of this gossip's interest.

I had a look at the book a few years ago. After a few pages (somewhere in the middle of the book), you can see the writing style (not very good, overexcited, and that would appeal to people who look for it), but it would take longer to get a grasp on the content.


I love these comments on HN.

Now if the (otherwise very kind) guy in charge of the Bureau international des poids et mesures at Sèvres who did not let me have a look at the refrerence for the kilogram and meter could change his mind, I would appreciate. For a physicist this is kinda like a cathedral.


If you ever are in Paris, I can't recommend the Musee des Arts et Metiers enough. I believe they have the several reference platinum kilograms that are now out of spec. [1] they also have the original actual Foucault pendulum that was used to demonstrate Earth's rotation. (and a replica doing a live demo, of course)

They have so many incredible artifacts (for weights and measures but also so much more: engineering, physics, civil engineering, machining,...)

[1]: https://collections.arts-et-metiers.net?id=13404-0001-


I don't know if you will be reading this, but I am just back from that museum. Thank you very much for the information.

I spent 4 hours to there and was surprised to see so many tourists, this is not a place I expected people visiting Paris to go to. There were no crowds though.

The top part is really great, you get to see how much people did with so little. So is the chemistry part.

I found the steel replica of the kilogramme and the meter, and of course the Foucault pendulum (in the neighboring refurbished church).

This is truly an interesting museum, on part with the museum of discoveries (musée de la découverte) which is unfortunately close now for a few years for renovations (or at lest was recently planned to be closed). Much better than La Vilette.

So thank you again!


Ahhh, thank you for the tip. I live in Versailles and usually go to museums for art, but this would be wonderful as well.

The Musée de Sèvres (or Bureau des Mesures as it is called now) has the original kilogramme and meter iridium reference, hidden in the basement ;( So if the director has a change of heart, I am all in!


The relationship to police is not bad in France. For the everyday Joe there are zero concerns.

You see people negotiating with police when pulled over, if this is in the typical "latin" way it is fair game.

I was taught as a kid to always go to police when in trouble. Taught the same to my kids.

Now, I live west of Paris which means that right from the start the relationship is better. In other places this may need very different.


Much like Australia really:

   In France, discriminatory identity checks are a striking illustration of this. Police disproportionately target certain citizens on the basis of their skin color or presumed origin, particularly young people perceived to be Black or Arab, including children. These abusive controls can often lead to more serious police violence, including with fatal outcomes.
~ https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/10/17/ethnic-profiling-french-...

~ https://humanrights.gov.au/know-your-rights/rights-of-indivi...


I've worked with ANAS and the SNIP when I was a youth camp counselor, the sentiment isn't shared.

Civilians are basically 'the others' and are to be avoided and met with suspicion first. And that's the most liberal police syndicate.


YMMV. As I mentioned this will depend on the place.

In my city the police approaches you smiling. They are part of all events so they are well known. But again it is in a nice cosy city.

You mention "camp counselor" - maybe it was more tense there?


We donnt have a list of banned books in France, or any discussion about that.

I now wonder whether this is great (freedom and so on) or terrible (manipulation and so on)


France bans hijabs in schools, so there's certainly more work left across the pond...

This is one of my go-to checks for actual security (not the one in yhe certification)

- limits on the length

- limits on the characters

- blocking paste

- weird limits on the email

This is a sign of a lack of real competence


We have the "5 fruit and vegs per day" ingrained since birth (for au least 25 years now). People buy these and if you have z supermarket you want to show that you have good vegs.


What do you mean? The will be an aisle with ham, sausage etc, and a butchery. There will be one for canned food, which will include some tuna, cassoulet and raviolis.

In my SuperU meat is not overly present.


The supermarkets I use aren’t like yours then.

There is way more surface dedicated to meat and dairy than to their alternatives. Typically it’s rows of freezers and fridges for meat and dairy, and a third of an alley for alternatives.


Ah, I misunderstood your comment, sorry. I thought you were comparing meat & dairy to anything else (vegs, canned, ...).

Yes, there are not many alternatives, half an alley in my case.


But it is getting on track. Just not with the previous religion.


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