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To reduce subscription sharing. It’s not complicated.


> so what exactly is the point of 5800X3D scalping

in the past, growth in PC gaming came naturally with the growth in the adoption of computers around the world.

at saturation of "new to computers" audiences, growth in PC gaming comes from convincing the core gaming demographic, newly-turned 13 year old boys, to agitate for PCs instead of XYZ.

so a big part of it is the retail-marketing experience - the aesthetics of buying - and scalping / sense of urgency plays extremely well with the buyer who actually chooses PC over a nintendo switch, as opposed to a kid who will never make the more expensive choice ever.

this is really a story about saturation than it is about hardware or shortages for AI usage or whatever.


Pc gaming is also massively cheaper than consoles these days so the lifetime cost is lower


How?

Consoles don’t pay for online subscriptions with f2p games anymore, which is the overwhelming lions share of online play today.

Consoles also get to flip games you’re done with. I’m positive about 3 of my friends spend much less than I do on gaming these days because of all the games they buy, play once, then flip again on FB market place

And then you get to the rising entry level cost of PC gaming. If you want something better than a Steam deck you’re looking at 1K USD to start with an Intel dGPU

But I guess if you’re fine with a Steam deck it’s a bit cheaper than consoles to start

The best claim that PC gaming has today is that it has a much larger library with indies that don’t release on console


Looking forward the physical media will disappear (with maybe the exception being Nintendo). Next gen playstation will probably be more expensive than the ps5 pro which is already 800 EUR in Europe so there will be little difference in pricing I think.

You are right about f2p though but you also don't need an insane PC to play most of the popular ones. Even a mini pc does that these days pretty decently and Integrated Graphics will keep on improving.



I talked about the meaning of the Jepsen test and the results we obtained in the FOSDEM'24 talk:

https://archive.fosdem.org/2024/schedule/event/fosdem-2024-3...

Slides are available here:

https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage/src/commit/4efc8...


the GB10 is only the same performance as a 3090. gb10 uses way less power.

i'm not sure why anyone would buy a mac studio instead of a gb10 machine for this use case.


> i'm not sure why anyone would buy a mac studio instead of a gb10

For an AI-only use case, the GB10s make sense, but they are only OK as desktop workstations, and I’m not sure for how long DGX OS will be updated, as dedicated AI machines have somewhat short lives. Apple computers, OTOH, have much longer lives, and desktops live the longest. I retired my Mac Mini a year after the machine was no longer getting OS updates, and it was still going strong.


DGX OS (based on Ubuntu) is used for all of nVidias GPU compute systems so it's probably going to be around for a while.


But how long until hardware support is dropped?


I don't know... when is nVidia planning on getting out of the ai business?


Yeah, if you had experience with their Jetson boards, you'd know Nvidia is not well regarded for their OS support.

TK1 support stopped after under 4 years. Basically they released it with some version of Ubuntu (14.04 LTS) and never upgraded it.


When will they discontinue GB10 hardware support because it’s too slow and they want to sell you newer chips?


it's just people looking to do experiments locally on the main machine rather than just get a dedicated spark, which can be used properly as a headless box than a Mac of which you are at the mercy of system shenanigans albiet still bearable compared to windows


another POV is, stop using a TV


haha, what if I told you that the currently existing, shipping product, "ChatGPT / Gemini uses a browser for you" will have more users than Firefox in two years? I will even bet you that will likely be the case in 2 months.


yeah, but nothing pays as much as doing free work for (checks notes) mintlify feels


the answer is even more boring, they use GCP haha


It’s quite interesting how „boring“ (traditionally enterprise?) their backend looks on the occasional peeks you get publicly. So much Apache stuff & XML.


another POV is, business IT projects fail at a higher rate than video games do! the people who post about "shipping" are projecting: "at least my garbage is delivered frequently, which is key to being employed, not key to creating meaning."


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