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No, they made Kagi first. See their history page: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/history.html


It’s a little deceptive. While early work began on Kagi prior to Orion, Orion launched prior to Kagi becoming GA. I think that can be interpreted in relatively different ways, mine being that I got to experience Orion as a product before Kagi. Anyway thanks for the timeline link.


I doubt this is the case. They were working on a prototype back in October 2023 [1], but then the contractor bailed out [2], but now they got (probably different) people working on it now

[1]: https://orionfeedback.org/d/6363-orion-for-linux

[2]: https://orionfeedback.org/d/6363-orion-for-linux/30


Their original product was an AI product, that later transformed into the search engine. Then, Orion was developed

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/history.html


Yeah, probably messed up the timeline because Orion had an earlier public release.


Actually 1pw should be working properly now, after an extremely long time


This is not true. The only way they will be earning money from Orion is through an optional "Orion Pro" subscription of $5 dollars a month, or $50 dollars a year. This gives you direct communication to the developers, allows you to influence the development of the browser, and have access to a nightly builds of Orion. Check it out here: https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#business


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