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First thing to note is that while the pictures are from the 1960s, the article merely says that Ford uses (and has used, for years) these caves to store cars in transit.

The Kansas City Ford plant manufactures more trucks/vans in a day than it can ship to their destinations, and Ford uses almost any surface lot it can rent (including a nearby amusement park's lot in the offseason) to hold cars until they can be transferred by rail or truck--it's very demand-driven. It's completely natural they'd use these caves as well based on their proximity to the rail and interstate transport near the river.

I don't see in the article anything that implies there's a cache of 1960s cars down there gathering limestone dust. That space would quickly be reclaimed for temporary storage of Transit vans awaiting their buyers.


The article didn't say the picture was from the 60's. But that would answer my question. I thought it would be quite a treasure trove for collectors!


There's a Ford manufacturing plant 3-5 miles from many of Kansas City's limestone caves along the Missouri river. And as the comment-linked video down below shows, these warehouses are vast and even used for commercial businesses. You can play paintball in a cave at Subtropolis.

Not too far away (3-4 hours), the salt mines in Hutchinson, KS store a lot of Hollywood memorabilia.

One big plot point of "The Day After" back in the 1980s was that people sought shelter in the underground caves around Kansas City.


Here's my suggestion.

Find a good audiobook version at your local library through Libby or Hoopla. The one I listened to was about 24 hours in length, but shorter at 1.25x.

After every chapter or so, check out the annotated version here and read/skim what you just listened to: http://www.powermobydick.com/

I found it helpful to listen to the language and flow first, then seek out the explanations in the annotations of the old language or the nautical terms.

This made it far more approachable with respect to the jargon. Helped even this native English speaker!


Strong "I drink your milkshake!" vibes from these proposals.

Both of these proposals require political stability we're unlikely to see over 600 or 50,000 years. You have to be thinking some kind of self-sustaining and monumental Pyramids-type project.


Capitalism wise they should be safe. Unless there is a war why wouldn’t the plants keep running?


> Unless there is a war

I think you will have trouble finding many places that haven't been touched by conflict in 800 years, given anyone lives there. If there's humans, there will be war.


Same size is important. There's likely also 12-15% shrinkflation that increases this significantly.


>> $2.50/box today relative to $2.00/box in 2019 represents +25% inflation...so nowhere near purported pre-COVID levels.

Annualized, that is 5.7% inflation. (1.25 increase ^ 0.25 for 4 years elapsed). So not pre-covid levels, but not nominal 25% annual inflation. Still a little over 2x desired annual growth rate.


Have you all read any old Apple II source? One reason very early on was to seed the PRNG (rnd() function) with variable input.

https://www.applefritter.com/content/random-number-generatio...

Maybe it carried over to modernity in the same way the apocryphal pot roast tale did: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/thinking-makes-it-so...


It is certainly worsened by the period of zero interest rates, which fueled a massive viral outbreak of promotion-driven development cultures among most of the largest tech employers. Recent mass layoffs in tech really aren't an antibody--the marauding bands simply reconstitute and find other hosts to infect and value to destroy. It will take a decade for that boom to unwind with a lot of carnage along the way. /remindme 10 years


10:10 wasn't always dominant. Look at some print ads for watches from the 1920s and 1930s. 8:18 was used just as frequently if not more so. It's the "other" time where the hands are balanced and equidistant from the 12 and 6. I grew up (pre-web) having heard (probably from some trivia book) the false explanation that 8:18PM was the time of Lincoln's death.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-ten-ten-tenet/


I suspect it's a little of column A and a little of column B. I asked my pop this question in the early 1970s and his answer was the first part of the SO answer--so that it wasn't dated as old. This predated the internet, predated video and cable TV, and seemed conventional wisdom at the time. I'm inclined to believe that the reason it was used after all those other technical advancements was simply tradition.

See also car model years beginning in September as another shelf-life improvement technique.


If you couch it as "preserving timelessness" or "suspension of disbelief" it fits what an artistic group of people might have had in mind better than "deception".


I think you're providing ways to describe deception that are themselves deceptive.


Not deception. Suspension of disbelief ;)


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