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The most likely contenders are OnePlus, Motorola, and HMD.

> "It is a big enough OEM that there is good chance you may have owned a device from them in the past."

I think this takes Nothing out of contention.


What about HTC, LG? Heck, Blackberry rising from the ashes?

I'd love for it to be Framework.


Those are no longer big these days so no. Also, they're not going to restart a whole product category just for grapheneos.

As OnePlus is kinda dead and taken over by oppo, I'm guessing Sony. They have some similar collaboration in the past like with Jolla. My Sony XA2 was one of the few models that could run sailfish.


> Also, they're not going to restart a whole product category just for grapheneos.

I don't think that there is any need to restart a new category. Just make your new phones good enough for GrapheneOS.

GrapheneOS has close to half a million users, I think it's worth doing some adjustments.


> I don't think that there is any need to restart a new category. Just make your new phones...

For HTC, yes... But neither LG nor Blackberry are still making phones


BlackBerry hasn't been OEM for their last few phones - the KeyOne, 2LE, and 2 were all outsourced to TCL, who is still making handsets. This would also fit with BlackBerry's security image, and even pull in the OnwardMobility vapourware.

I'm every bit as skeptical as you are, and in no universe is BlackBerry the OEM in question, but I would like to live in my delusion until GrapheneOS proves me wrong - I want a keyboard, dammit!


Oh, I get it now!


BlackBerry has been out of the phone business for years now.

They basically sold the brand to TCL iirc


I don't remember where but heard it was Nothing


Thanks! I had no idea that this existed. Unfortunately, the specs aren't great, especially when compared to Jolla's offering. Oh well.

I'm quite enthusiastic about Graphene's OEM partnership,though.


I share your enthusiasm re: Graphene OEM partnerships. I think it's fantastic what they've managed to pull off so far.

Re: the FuriLabs phone, yeah, it's rough - but it's definitely usable for early adopters who want to contribute and help build.


It's still awful. The only devices I own that would give me a reliable time, would then be my phone, laptop, desktop, and maybe my TV. My microwave, oven, thermostat, alarm clock, car, watch, grandfather clock, etc would all be wrong.

You would wreak unmeasurable havoc across the target country.


Yeah at that point I think we'd be better off if everything was just UTC and dealt with locally


Eh, it's like 5 minutes a month they would be off by. Eventually all those devices will be Internet connected anyways and we'll all have something else new to rage over.


I'm confused. This has a very simple, and likely explanation. Someone found their old password written down (or found an old hard drive). This is one of the most obvious and clear-cut applications of Occam's Razor - why jump to "state-actors"?


the assumption is that this wallet is so old it belongs to one of the creators of bitcoin.


2011 is not nearly old enough to suggest that


Without web searching, Gemini 2.5 Pro is very convinced that the case is real.


Not for me.


> then get it ranked and filtered on the user's device based on the user's preferences and viewing history

I think I'm missing something here. Why would people not just choose to remain in their echo chambers?


There is no longer an echo chamber besides the one a person creates for themselves, which people may choose to do.

It would speed up the rate at which individuals become delusional. But once a certain divergence threshold is reached, they get corrected by reality. The proposed solution hypercharges this delusion-correction process and contains it at the individual level so that it's less likely to grow to the nation-state level where most of the violence and oppression is siloed.

In a democratic society where each person gets a vote, individual delusions of this sort cancel eachother out like random noise. What ends up being voted into law will be what people want in common.

Also, people will gradually realize that being delusional is disadvantageous regardless of what goals they have, so they'll want to filter less and less over time.


Allow me to make one important distinction I forgot to do in the previous reply: there is a difference between conflicts that arise from delusions vs conflicts that arise from preferences. The former is a subset of the latter. We can prevent escalation of the former with client-side filtering and ranking, but the latter is a force of nature. Two people that share an identical model of reality may decide to take different actions anyway. Minimizing echo chambers aligns people's reality models, but it doesn't align their preferences. So while people will want to do less ranking and filtering over time, they will still want to set a non-zero base level of ranking and filtering for themselves, and congregate into homogenous groups, not because they want to be delusional, but because they're fundamentally different.


I would phrase that differently, it sounds like you're suggesting that some states have actually banned Bluesky by name.


I went from an A52 5G to a S25+ (3 years between the two models). The S25 is infinitely nicer to use. The screen is usable in direct sunlight. OneUI is noticeably smoother. The camera is way better (like, way, way better, in both good and poor lighting conditions). Background apps don't close as frequently. Heavy social media apps perform more smoothly.


UMG (music label) has been watermarking their music for many years now, and I'm unaware of any tool to remove their watermarks.


Do you think if such a tool exists, will it benefit the community or not?


Bailing out large corporations and heavy regulations are not laissez-faire capitalism. We haven't had laissez-faire capitalism for at least a quarter decade (I don't know enough about late 20th-century economics to hold an opinion there).


If the tech industry and the wider "disrupting" industries haven't been laissez-faire since the 90s then what on earth do you consider laissez-faire?

Governments around the world have let these industries do whatever they want with almost zero oversight and almost zero repercussions for anything. For decades. These companies and industries do whatever they want. Its only in the last few years that a couple of governments have finally started to push back a teeny tiny bit.


Industries cannot be "laissez-faire". Economies, or systems of governance, can be laissez-faire.

> Governments around the world have let these industries do whatever they want with almost zero oversight and almost zero repercussions for anything. For decades. These companies and industries do whatever they want. Its only in the last few years that a couple of governments have finally start push back a teeny tiny bit.

Are you claiming that the tech industry wasn't bound by intellectual property laws until recently?


i didn’t say those words at all, but since you bring it up, yes, i think palantir, many AI companies trainings, and many many other companies have completely ignored IP laws, yes.

these and surrounding “disruptive” industries have been behaving as if they’re in a laissez-faire environment for a couple of decades at this point. there are certainly strong arguments which would fairly argue “Look at the havoc they have wreaked on us. Like a small child who can’t control themselves, clearly some of them are incapable of self-regulation. it’s time to reign some of them in, and harshly. they’re behaving like uncontrollable spoiled and bratty children setting our house on fire. time for a spanking.” in too many instances those arguments would be on solid ground and tough to earnestly argue they’re wrong.


dude is saying it's even worse than laissez faire

it's laissez faire towards monopolies, let them be

but not laissez faire when a company is about to collapse, then the government rescues them. laissez faire would be less sympathetic. i.e. bank bailouts of 2008, automaker bailouts of 2020, current intel bailouts

thus not only is the government allowing monoplies/duopolies, but in fact pumping money into them to continue their survival


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