I just can't take TIOBE seriously, I don't think Kotlin is as popular as the Logo educational programming language and Rust dropping 20 positions despite adding a new keyword to it is also interesting. And Typescript isn't even measured.
Yours is much more believable, but I don't see C++ there. Is this a bug or a feature? EDIT: I saw the clarification in the other comment but maybe C/C++ would be better then?
It depends what you are looking for in a rating. If you are making a new programming language and want to know which concepts and syntaxes are familiar to people, than TIOBE is probably not that far off. PYPL on the other hand seems to show how many people want to try the language, not necessarily trying or sticking with it, but more like a measure of its visibility on the market. Both are useful metrics and help to paint a better overall picture.
> The index is currently limited to 22 languages. You can still analyze the popularity of your favorite language and compare it to others, using Google Trends. C++ has the same popularity as C on Google trends: to avoid duplication, it is not included in the PYPL index.
The world outside the bleeding edge of tech is a really, really big place. Also, software, once written, has a way of sticking around for a long time.
Ruby has been around for almost 20 years and decidedly hip for more than a decade, and only now breaking into top 10. Delphi has been more or less dead in our bubble for a couple of decades, yet only dropping out of top ten...
I know that always looking for the most recent/hyped technology is not a good thing and there is a lot of legacy code out there, but I also know that a lot of people started using Kotlin after Google announced official Android support, so if a language rating fails to capture this, then it's not a good ranking in my opinion.
I keep having to remind myself of this, trying to keep up with all the fads would be a huge waste of time whilst my customers wouldn't notice anything different.
I just started picking up pascal again, freepascal to be specific.
I started with pascal in school, quickly moved to C, then C++; As I gain experience and wisdom, I migrated back from C++ to C. I just discovered freepascal this year, and has been enjoying pascal again. Pascal is just like C, but cleaner.
Wow do people still use these languages enough for them to be in the top 20? I wrote a lot of Pascal after Basic and some Delphi when it came out but I haven't heard anything about either in like 15-20 years.
The thing about language popularity is mostly about its ecosystem -- libraries, teachers, friends, and corporations behind them. However, all ecosystem are transient in nature, and all code that interwines and depends on a ecosystem will go with it in time. I guess that is why as I get older, I find myself more attracted to classical languages that do not have much ecosystem anymore. It makes my code to feel less mortal in a sense.
There's not really a compelling reason for VB.NET to even exist at this point. It'd be lovely to have whatever effort is expended on that shifted to F#.
To be fair, those users are also using VBA, which is still in the VB6 line, not the .NET VB. Visual Basic on .NET is almost identical with C#, just with different syntax, and is a second-class citizen with regards to documentation and resources.
Disclosure: I maintain it.