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And Biden has a history of being pro-China, and have made it clear that he wants to end Trump’s China tariffs and treat China like we did during the Obama/Biden administration. I’d say that’s far worse, and I wager the hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people suffering from the hands of the CCP agree.


I think that Obama was far far harder on China than Trump. Trump gave up any semblance of influence in the region, and China has gained massive power due to the absence of US leadership in the area. The tariffs are a pointless show that have done nothing to weaken China in the least. If Biden follows Obama's direction we will gain far more geopolitical power in the region, but it will be impossible to regain all the ground that we have lost on the international stage due to Trump's general weakness and unwillingness to engage in basic statecraft.


President Trump was not working against China's human right violations either. I don't think a change of US leadership is going to make much of an impact on their quality of life one way or another.


Just to be clear, you are saying that having favorable trade policies with China is worse than directly associating the presidency with actual white supremacists? Really?


He also directly denounced white supremacy, many times, in fact:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd0cMmBvqWc&feature=youtu.be...

https://streamable.com/sr9o2s


It may very well be why is it so surprising? What Trump was doing is just playing politics to a group of stupid people. On the other hand pro-China policies have potential to destroy the social fabric of this country for generations. (I am a Bernie guy do not be so quick to judge)


As opposed to Biden's belligerent life-long racism, which the left universally goes a great distance out of its way to ignore?

Even Kamala Harris called him a racist. She did her best to run away from that after it was no longer convenient of course.

See: Biden's statements on "a racial jungle," segregation, busing, and how he didn't want his children going to desegregated schools.

See: Biden's support of the crime bill that specifically targeted and locked up a million black people.

See: Biden's past friendships and associations with 'former' KKK memembers like Robert Byrd (someone he considered a good friend and mentor). Byrd was one of the most vile pieces of scum elected to the US Government in the past century. How's that for associating with white supremacists?

See: Biden's racist statements about Obama prior to the 2008 election.


Obama also worked with senator Byrd. Byrd was no perfect but he disavowed his relationship with the KKK. This kind of self correction and compromise is what has always held our country's politics and made it different than other's. Obama said it better:

"Listening to Senator Byrd I felt with full force all the essential contradictions of me in this new place, with its marble busts, its arcane traditions, its memories and its ghosts. I pondered the fact that, according to his own autobiography, Senator Byrd had received his first taste of leadership in his early twenties, as a member of the Raleigh County Ku Klux Klan, an association that he had long disavowed, an error he attributed—no doubt correctly—to the time and place in which he'd been raised, but which continued to surface as an issue throughout his career. I thought about how he had joined other giants of the Senate, like J. William Fulbright of Arkansas and Richard Russell of Georgia, in Southern resistance to civil rights legislation. I wondered if this would matter to the liberals who now lionized Senator Byrd for his principled opposition to the Iraq War resolution—the MoveOn.org crowd, the heirs of the political counterculture the senator had spent much of his career disdaining.

I wondered if it should matter. Senator Byrd's life—like most of ours—has been the struggle of warring impulses, a twining of darkness and light. And in that sense I realized that he really was a proper emblem for the Senate, whose rules and design reflect the grand compromise of America's founding: the bargain between Northern states and Southern states, the Senate's role as a guardian against the passions of the moment, a defender of minority rights and state sovereignty, but also a tool to protect the wealthy from the rabble, and assure slaveholders of noninterference with their peculiar institution. Stamped into the very fiber of the Senate, within its genetic code, was the same contest between power and principle that characterized America as a whole, a lasting expression of that great debate among a few brilliant, flawed men that had concluded with the creation of a form of government unique in its genius—yet blind to the whip and the chain."


> Byrd was no perfect but he disavowed his relationship with the KKK.

All is forgiven by the establishment if you’re a good boy and toe the line.


If it's not forgiven you fight and accomplish nothing and divide further. That's what we have seen the last 4 years.

That's why being a politician takes some skill.


> That's why being a politician takes some skill.

The only skill required is managing to pull the cover over the eyes of your constituents while you take money from invested interests.


The democratic party is the impeached the president during his last year, over circumstantial claims that didn't pan out. It was at that point that the gloves came off. Game set match.

Hillary Clinton herself has said so, something along the lines of "you must fight like your life depends on it for your values." The left was doing it, now the right is doing it.


You know, people can change. Some do, and some flatly refuse to.


Trump's weakening of the US's global influence and dissolving its alliance with the EU has been the greatest gift to China in a generation. All China wants is to be an unchallenged world power.


Are you equating support for trade with the PRC with... white nationalism?




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