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Yeah, sorry, but my access to healthcare isn't something as heart felt as the weather report. I either live or die without it.


Right, but my comment isn't about current-day America, more a possible future where your access to care doesn't rest on an election, because not everything is hyper-politicized and some decisions get made for what is the best decision for most not what matches the ideology.

The hyper-polarization of the political landscape means you either get care or you don't. If one side will help you and one side wont, you're going to have a tough time holding on to your rights regardless of one election win.

A more unified America with a strong middle class wouldn't need to undermine one group to bolster another, and you would have more moderate political candidates rather than having to choose between two distant evils every election.

I get to not care because years of moderate politics in my country has seen a general trend toward humanitarianism regardless of which "side" wins. Recently the "right-wing" political group of my country protected same-sex marriage, even though it doesn't align with their ideology, because they're only moderate-right, and so their priorities still lie in pleasing the majority and not extreme political interests.

Obviously the US would have a long way to go before it could ever take any of this advice seriously, I was just trying to point out that the divided nature of your population drives the politics too.


Would you rather be forced to pay 130 bucks a month and still have to pay up to 800 bucks a year for initial costs of health care? Because that’s what it means. Or you get your own health insurance and have something to choose from


You're talking to someone who buys health insurance on the individual market. $130/mo premiums and a $800 deductible sounds amazing, considering that I pay many multiples of those rates. I'd gladly pay more than triple or quadruple that, as I'd still be saving money and would wind up with better benefits.

If I bought a family health plan, I'd be paying at least 15 times those rates on the individual market.

Meanwhile, other first world nations are able to insure all of their citizens with better health outcomes than outcomes in the US, and at half of the cost the US pays for its inferior levels of care[1].

[1] https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/quality...


I don't think anyone who's sick/dying gets turned away from the hospital.


Only for emergency care. If you need, say, cancer treatment, you are on your own.




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