I’m sure I’ve done more to OSS than 95% of commenters here. I publish my code under MIT when possible (and WTFPL for smaller projects), and yes, please train on my work or split out my functions verbatim, they are far less valuable than some people seem to believe. I don’t even care about the attribution part of MIT, it’s simply a nice to have when decent people use my code.
Wait... Shouldn't you use a different license if you don't care about attribution?
Creative commons maybe.
Just because you, as someone who self proclaimed to have done more OSS than 95% of the commenters here, does not know how to use OSS licenses, doesn't mean that the copyright question being discussed here is a non issue.
The issue is that you don't care about what the licenses in your code mean:
> I publish my code under MIT when possible (...) please train on my work or split out my functions verbatim (...) I don’t even care about the attribution part of MIT
I choose MIT because it’s a widely used permissive license most people are confident about using, not because I will personally pursue every clause in it. I will not take action against anyone using my MIT-licensed code without attribution.
Having been a member of a very high profile permissively licensed project and having started a few relatively popular ones of my own, I’d say I don’t need to take licensing advice or be called “does not know how to use OSS licenses” from someone who laughably advises using Creative Commons, when Creative Commons itself advises against using CC licenses for source code, except CC0, which is entirely different from CC.
My good, sorry to move away from the topic, but do you realise how childish you look with your comments?
I was considering not replying, but here goes nothing....
> not because I will personally pursue every clause in it.
Then you are out of the game, because all clauses should be respected, or else you are committing something very close to an illegality when you violate said clauses. If you don't want a specific clause, consult a lawyer and remove it, or use another license.
> Creative Commons itself advises against using CC licenses for source code
So before your didn't care about respecting clauses and now you do?
I could argue: there are some bits of text in CC that make it not a good license for code, but I don't care because I don't respect those clauses. I'm not going to make that argument, because it doesn't make any sense. You either use a license and respect it or you don't.
This isn’t just about OSS. If I have a public repo on GitHub without a license, you can’t rewrite that code and put it in your project. I own the copyright. The issue is that Copilot will still launder it into your project for you.
Oefrha just said that his, and probably yours, code is not worth that much if splitted into functions and commentary blocks. The value of software comes from its whole purpose, not your clever email-validation-regex you are so proud of.
>code is not worth that much if splitted into functions
Some algorithms in scientific computing require lots of effort to implement as nice, reusable, performant function. Those functions often more important than whatever the whole is doing because it's what most other people will be interested in using.
Maybe I’m the worst programmer in the world. It doesn’t matter. My code is still my code, and if I don’t explicitly license it such that you can copy it, you’re not allowed to.
Again, if I put code in a public repo on GitHub and don’t include a license that allows it, you cannot copy that code. It doesn’t matter that you’re able to access it.
Just because you don't care does not mean others should not care, even if they are less valuable coders than you.
I mostly contribute by finding issues and reporting them, does that make me less of a OSS contributor than you?
And yet I do care if my private project is used by behemoth like Microsoft without my consent, even if it's only poorly written fizzbuzz. Why? because if I wanted to share it I would publish.
I was answering the questions “Are you saying you don't care about the copyright of your own work either? Or you don't care because you don't publish your work OSS?”
