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Yes, and in the case of technology, it is REALLY EASY to simply sell no technology to any authoritarian regime, for any purpose.

There are dozens of academic and GNOs that track democracy, e.g., [0]. Just select a reasonable cutoff of some level of democracy, and don't sell to anyplace below that.

That does require management and sales to have ethics. Some do.

[0] https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking



You're assuming only authoritarian regimes are capable of doing bad things. You can have a perfectly democratic country without a sense of ethics when it comes to homeland security and/or espionage. So that line of thinking provides a false sense of virtue really.


No, I know full well that even democratic nation-states occasionally do bad things.

But if you cannot tell the difference between how democratic countries vs autocratic regimes deploy security & espionage technology, you are deeply ignorant. I'd suggest you go live in Russia or Myanmar for a while and report back.

Of course there are instances of overreach in democracies. They typically get reported and corrected. In autocracies, they are systematically rewarded and encouraged.

Of course everyone would rather have no security & espionage technology, but that is entirely unrealistic. If you want to live a self-determined life in a democratically controlled state, you MUST always be better armed and prepared than every bully and authoritarian out there, or you will soon be ruled by them. Security & espionage is simply a part of being better armed & prepared than the authoritarians (and in a democratic state, you REALLY aren't of the slightest bit of interest to the agencies).


Im not sure if you're arguing in bad faith or just naive about how your own country operates.


Neither

Yes, I have a fairly good idea of how my country operates, including the understanding that fighting espionage, transnational criminal gangs, terrorism, and war get very dirty, and on all sides, including ours.

I also know at least the democracies have oversight & constraints in place that creates real constraints and corrects and punishes overreach. The fact that you and I know of some of the bad events is BECAUSE of that oversight and constraints.

I also know that the choices are to either lay down our arms and yield to the autocracies, or to continue fighting to remain a self-determining people.

You only need to look to Chechnya, Syria, Georgia, Ukraine, or many other places to see the consequences of either yielding or losing that fight.

Yes, we have some abuses like Abu Grabe and soldiers & leaders were held responsible & punished. Yes, there are times where surveillance overreaches.

What we do not have (yet) is literally political parties literally using the security apparatus to blow up multiple civilian apartment blocks as a false flag to influence the election; it's how Putin came to power in Russia. We do not have a wholesale co-opting of technology and industry, complete with mobile execution vans to ensure compliance, as does the CCP.

If you cannot tell the difference, I suggest that you learn some history, or just feel free to relocate to one of those other countries.

I also wish that none of the defense or espionage apparatus was necessary. But as long as there are local bullies or expansionist authoritarians, then staying better armed and prepared will be necessary.


Some call that nei-colonialism, you use economic/business opportunities as a way to undermine a country's sovreignity and enforce your puppet regime. Democracy is neither morally superior or a your manifest destiny to export against the will of foreign governments.




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