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Dairy? There's literally no evidence dairy in a modern diet is healthy, and much evidence of it being unhealthy.


Regular pasteurized milk is problematic due to the presence of nucleic acids that are biologically active in humans. Fermented food products like yogurt are fine. UHT milk is OK.

Milk is not just food but most likely a genetic transfection system activating mTORC1 signaling for postnatal growth https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23883112/


Yes it contains (natural) growth hormones. And we (milk binging nations) wonder how we got so fat?!


No, you do not quite understand: it is much more serious than "growth hormones" like rBST.

Milk drinkers are inserting bovine RNA into their cells (unless it is heavily fermented or UHT)

> Milk is rich in miRNAs that appear to play important roles in the postnatal development of all mammals.

https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10...

> There is compelling evidence that human and bovine milk exosomes play a crucial role for adequate metabolic and immunological programming of the newborn infant at the beginning of extrauterine life. Milk exosomes assist in executing an anabolic, growth-promoting and immunological program confined to the postnatal period in all mammals. However, epidemiological and translational evidence presented in this review indicates that continuous exposure of humans to exosomes of pasteurized milk may confer a substantial risk for the development of chronic diseases of civilization including obesity, type 2 diabetes mellitus, osteoporosis, common cancers (prostate, breast, liver, B-cells) as well as Parkinson's disease. Exosomes of pasteurized milk may represent new pathogens that should not reach the human food chain.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6317263/


How did dairy ever become a health food is beyond me. (lobby + tradition probably)

The whole "calcium" argument is also totally debunked.


Cows convert grass to something drinkable and caloric so it's good for surviving on the steppe with your cows.


No one thinks that peanuts and vegetable oil combine into some magic superfood, yet Plumpy'nut is concretely beneficial to keeping people fed and healthy. Now, consider this same rationale into to a kind of poverty close to home. There is plenty of evidence that milk in school lunches is often the only reliable daily source of calcium and protein for millions of impoverished children worldwide.

Contextualized one way, milk is a meal replacement or nutrition supplement, and one that is more practical than most other options. A serving of whole milk requires zero on-site prep time, is relatively portable once packaged, and perhaps more importantly, it is often the most palatable option for picky eaters. Public health is complicated.


> for millions of impoverished children worldwide.

Did you read I wrote "modern diet". Those are not the typical HN reading crowd.

Also: you could give them leafy greens can lentils to achieve the same.


Those impoverished kids you talk about are often lactose intolerant.

Sure the benefits of the dairy nutrition may outweigh the problems of the intolerance.


> Those impoverished kids you talk about are often lactose intolerant.

Exactly. Same goes for other common allergies options like legumes, seafood, and gluten. That's why you provide options.


Half of Americans aren't obese because of dairy. The leading cause of death isn't cardiovascular disease because of dairy.

Everything is unhealthy if you look hard enough, before looking at dairy I'd look at sodas, sugar/carbs in everything, &c.


How do you know? Dairy (especially high processed and in large quantities) is certainly a contributing factor.


Was there ever a study?


Yes, we're all part of it right now. Feel free to check pretty much any study about obesity or western diet.

Or just go for a walk down the street or in an hospital


The question is how many of them don't consume dairy I guess. Probably most do.




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