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It's available on my blog website: https://technicshistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/cfm_7...

I did capture there his most choice quote from the interview:

> Kurtz later said that he and Kemeny saw MAC's agenda as totally different from Dartmouth's--MIT was trying to design the theoretically best computer utility, with layers of security "and all that kind of crap."



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