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What exactly is the benefit over Waterfox or Ungoogled Chromium here? The FAQ https://kagi.com/orion/faq.html#firefox seems to be things that are specific to Mac or have privacy features already offered by open-source alternatives.


Fwiw, it's a webkit-based browser. Another alternative browser engine in a usable browser is a plus for the Ecosystem.

On the other hand, it promises to be a simple yet usable (builtin adblock + privacy) browser. Ime, brave is probably the closest however it has a lot of nagging around their crypto and ads.


Kagi has crypto now too? I thought that was just brave.


The comment you replied to is also saying that they find the Brave crypto annoying.


I don't touch Brave because of the crypto thing and founder's affiliations.


Well yes so do I. I'll never use it


No, it doesn't. Sorry, my comment was not worded clearly there. The nagging around crypto and ads on the homepage are a (anti-)feature of brave (that don't exist in Orion).


Kagi does not have crypto


For the Mac version, one of the “features” is that it’s built with the native UI toolkit and tries to blend into the desktop instead of setting itself apart with “branded UI” like browsers tend to do these days. Presumably the Linux version (which I’m assuming is built with GTK) would similarly adhere to GTK desktop (mostly GNOME) conventions.


GNOME Web does that and it's open source. What's the selling point of Orion on Linux?


GNOME Web is extremely barebones, moreso than even Safari (which itself is pretty basic). On macOS, Orion kind of acts like a “Safari Pro” with a whole bunch of power user features like vertical tree-style tabs and profiles among many other things. I’d expect that under GNOME, Orion will be a power user oriented “GNOME Web Pro”.


I would say it's the business model. Customers paying you to provide a good service is straightforward for both parties




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