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Kind of curious how air traffic control evolved in other countries, and how the international flight system works with handoffs between countries, particularly in Europe and the Caribbean where national borders tend to be relatively small.


In a nutshell it goes like this: you file a flight plan to go from A in country A to B in country B. Every country that you cross will know about this.

Depending if you fly IFR or VFR and at what altitude, you will talk to either a flight information service (FIS), Radar or Area Control Center (ACC).

Hand-off is usually done a few miles from the border of the next country you're going to pass. You tell them who you are and where you're going to. They can let you fly as planned or give you another route or altitude.

From a pilot's point of view is pretty simple and straightforward.


How the flights plans get routed is also of interest, they typically go through AFTN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronautical_Fixed_Telecommuni...


How were the flights filed in the pre-internet era?


There is standard form that you would fill out at the Briefing office and they would fax it to all relevant parties.

Before that, I have no clue if something existed or you would just ring up the destination aerodrome to let them know you're coming.


I’ve filed a VFR plan by phone (more than a decade ago), don’t know for sure if it works the same for IFR but I’d imagine so. You’d call up and basically read out the form fields in one long monologue.


Internationally, the concept of regulated airspace began taking shape after World War I. Under the Treaty of Versailles, the International Commission for Air Navigation (ICAN) was created in 1919, developing the first air traffic regulatory framework initially signed by 19 states.

There is cooperation between states, with the best example I know of being the Maastricht Upper Area Control Centre (MUAC) which was established in 1972 by Eurocontrol and manages the upper airspace (above 24,500 feet) over Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and northwest Germany.

Eurocontrol is the first and, to the best of my knowledge, the only successful attempt to pool controllers between countries in Europe.


This was indeed normalized very early on in post WWII european construction:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocontrol





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