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Well that is because there's two very different things, both called "cookies".

When a grandma bakes some cookies for their grandchildren she uses only some basic ingredients - eggs, flour, butter, sugar.

For the product that food industries calls as cookies however, the list of ingredients looks like a git SHA.



Man, you're missing a bunch of ingredients to actually make tasty cookies. Definitely need some salt. She's probably also using vanilla extract or purchased chocolate chips (or chunks) or cinnamon. Plus the leavening agent, so baking powder (or baking soda and another acid). That's all just for the basic cookies, there's so many options out there using stuff like malted chocolate powder, and that's ignoring making palatable gluten-free cookies.


It was just an example of the kinds of ingredients, not a complete list. Granma is not going to add Potassium bromate, for example.


Yeah, but the point is adding salt raises the "Classification" to processed. Using store bought chocolate chips raises it to ultra processed because it contains ultra processed ingredients.


Is there any evidence that those are any healthier? If I'm going to overeat the same amount of calories eating store-bought cookies or grandma-made cookies - is my health outcome any different?


Depends on where you are. There's food additives that are used in the US that are forbidden in Europe [1]

> The E.U. says that if they can’t dismiss the possibility of harm, they can’t find an additive safe,” Galligan says. In the U.S., the bar is much lower; companies can add new ingredients to their foods without even informing the FDA. “In the U.S., it feels like the FDA is waiting to act until harm is definitely proven,” says Galligan.

[1] https://time.com/7210717/food-additives-us-fda-banned-europe...


Yes.

Look into the process used to make soybean oil vs the process used to make butter.


I'm not sure how is that relevant. My guess would be that saturated fat in butter is worse for health outcome.


We're talking about what makes ultra processed foods unhealthy - the process used to make each ingredient is exactly what is relevant.


Absolutely. calories dont tell you much.


So what's the evidence? I couldn't find anything. What do they not tell? I assume that macros in homemade and bought cookies are roughly the same.




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