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As a long time proponent of reasonable-ism I disagree with a lot of this. The assumption that a lot of our problems stem from 2 sides just seeing an issue differently is just nonsense in this day and age.

The big Problem, is that one side has slid heavily into authoritarianism, and the other side is completely ill-equipped to fight it.

On any particular issue, the right will say whatever gets them more Power, and the left will bring out some sort of philosophy professor to try and pick apart the nuances of the conversation.



For real. Honestly, the idea that all people are good and caring and just see things differently is the comforting lie.

I really really want to believe it. You get to feel happy about humanity, smarter than all the hysterical people, etc,

It took so so so much evil from the Republicans to convince me that they are Not a reasonable side, do Not warrant any consideration, and that people who follow them Are morally corrupt.


And you don't realize there are problems on both sides?


I was thinking about this while reading the article. 15 years ago I prided myself on actively searching out opposing views and engaging with them. I still do that in the small scale, talking with coworkers or friends who have opposing views, but where the fuck can you find any reasonable conservative commentators these days. What are the most prominent voices? People like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder? They don't have an intellectually honest bone in their body.

How the hell can you even get a balanced view in terms of news/media you consume when one side is dominated by lunatics and bad actors.


At this point isn't the balanced view simply the non-conservative view?

Don't listen to Democrat party propaganda either of course, but there's much less of that and it's slightly more aligned with reality.


Oren Cass and Commonplace are pretty good writers on the US Republican side.


I'm not familiar with Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder but what makes you so sure that their point of view is unreasonable? It seems you agree that their viewpoint is opposing, which likely means their premise are different, so isn't it entirely possible that their conclusion is reasonable and logical when one starts from their position?

Also, there isn't one source that can represent the "conservative" viewpoint because there isn't one conservative viewpoint. There are many factions within the Republican party with sometimes shockingly different points of view. Just like the Democratic party representing the "liberal" agenda.

I could just as easily ask, where is the one source I go to get an understanding of the liberal agenda? (Just a rhetorical question, I actually don't follow the news and don't plan to.)


Sure. When you start from the axiom that people unlike yourself are evil and must be harmed at all costs, you might end up near those positions. However, most people don't have that axiom, and we shouldn't attempt to compromise those who do, but should fence them (as in a distributed system fencing failed nodes).


How can you speak on this conversation at all if you're not familiar with anything?




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