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Releasing such documents, even if fully redacted, is important for State Agencies when dealing with a branding windfall. This, along with for example Obama's recent memo to the US Intelligence community asking them to be more considerate of civil liberties for allied nations, do nothing to actually address the problem but they do give off the appearance of caring.

Compare this to how a corporation deals with a negative branding windfall. Take the case of GM this year in dealing with their ignition switch recall. The controversy increased as their response was based on rationalization without dealing with the fallout of trust. Eventually the increased negativity brought their CEO to practically beg the public for forgiveness.

The US Gov, perhaps just another corporation, stands in contrast by conducting a rational response like Toyota, albeit slower, but it has no reason to consider the wider trust fallout, apart from measures this article mentions. It feels there is no reason to prosecute anyone for torture (Obama's look forward not backward argument). This protection of their gangsters [1] is a mentality that trickles down through the whole system of governance including how wrongful acts by the police are handled.

When Toyota's trust was damaged they had to beg to keep customers. When the US Gov's trust is damaged... meh, you're not going anywhere.

1. http://youtu.be/tQhIRBxbchU?t=2m9s



> but they do give off the appearance of caring.

No, they give off the appearance of having been coerced by an unfavorable FOIA ruling to release as little as they can.


I'm confused how you could consider this situation to be a "windfall" for these agencies in any sense? A windfall is a positive thing, the surveillance story is a negative for them surely?


Windfall, as a word, is a fossilized metaphor. A windfall is that which falls from a tree as the result of wind. It can be fruit, small branches, or the whole tree. It can be good, or it can be bad: think of a tree falling on your car or house.


The common usage has a good connotation.

From Websters:

Synonyms: benediction, benefit, boon, felicity, godsend, good, manna, blessing

Antonyms: affliction, bane, curse, evil, plague, scourge


And has for a long time. The 1818 version of Johnson's "A Dictionary of the English Language" has "an unexpected legacy; any unexpected advantage", with no negative connotations. https://books.google.com/books?id=zsI_AQAAMAAJ&pg=PT1100&dq=...

The original 1755 version only had "Fruit blown down from the tree" - http://johnsonsdictionaryonline.com/?page_id=7070&i=2282 . Etymonline says 'Figurative sense of "unexpected acquisition" is recorded from 1540s' - http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=windfall&allowed_in_fra... .

It's also used in the 1800s as the tornado track. See https://books.google.com/books?id=1GQJAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA324&dq=w... .


Well ... not buying toyota is easy. Giving up US citizenship is hard. The USG have the bargaining power.




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