Not really what I meant. It is up or out, but I don’t really believe the long hours are an effective way to achieve the up. It’s just something a lot of people impose on themselves.
The sales and management part only really comes in after you’ve passed the team manager level which is fairly advanced.
> I don’t really believe the long hours are an effective way to achieve the up.
That is an interesting comment. I think you are right. Probably more of a baseline competency but extraordinary 'soft skills'?
I meant team manager as included in 'sales'. Where I've worked as consultant (warm body, not a real consultant) team managers were essentially sales people.
The sales and management part only really comes in after you’ve passed the team manager level which is fairly advanced.